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Extremely very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I didn't make clear ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I included that point because when I had to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that had not been sludged up really severely.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to chat concerning a few issues of these vans, yet I I'm plainly not going to come out and say one is far better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines after that. Allow's talk regarding engine and actually simply to define that the model years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you recognize, for a version of a Chevy van has been around given that, you know, around that time also. Given that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with impact to these engines, since they didn't have sufficient threading in the stimulate plug, which triggered troubles.
So if you're getting anything from most likely 08 and newer, you're not going to have that type of spark plug problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll develop coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to change the entire point.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, since I'm discussing problems, it's a more sophisticated engine. Expenses web cam, so you're obtaining more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier design with push rods.
They're simply truly respectable, durable, solid engines. You recognize, being a van, naturally, you recognize, doing any kind of solution on them is extra complicated because you have actually reached get rid of that cover and get involved in servicing in odd methods. Yet things like spark plugs last a terrible long period of time, so they do not need to be changed very typically.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't think about if we have actually ever before done a Chevy, however Chevy, they're readily available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a very long time, like back prior to the 2000 version year.
You understand, that's still readily available. If you're a say, I do not know, I'm simply going to state a plumbing professional and you've got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would be a truly good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it feels like the diesels are, they appear to have less problems in vans than they perform in the vehicles. Possibly because they aren't functioned so hard, yet when points take place, they're truly expensive to fix. We have actually obtained a great deal of video clips and info regarding diesels, specifically the Fords.
So you truly require to reconsider getting a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for purpose, see to it that you're fitting the engine that you're purchasing for the function that you're endeavouring to satisfy. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will state, Chevy is virtually restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
Yet if you're, and once again, we're just speaking about sort of a straight, routine freight van right here. The diesel definitely isn't the best option. Look at your objective, your use, just how much weight you're hauling and that'll help you decide. Mark: What concerning the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're practically equivalent.
Something that we have not discussed right here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what model, they're available ever from half load to one bunch chassis and really a few of the cutaway vans are really also more resilient, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
However normally the drive trains, you understand, I discover them to be virtually equivalent. Mark: So let's speak about steering and suspension. Exactly how do they contrast? Bernie: You know, I'm going to give the side to Ford on this set. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's less steering link involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it appears, and the Chevy's probably last a little longer than the Fords, but the, you understand, the steering link is a lot less challenging, so there's much less components and less things to use out.
The trip in a Ford is possibly a little bit much more truck like but I do not understand if you 'd really ever truly noticed a difference between the 2. It looks like their elements are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the same, yet I will claim that it seems like with Fords, the method they construct their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to need to be replaced almost each time you do a brake job.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly poor doors. I indicate, the gliding doors were crap, you understand, really severely developed. In fact, I would certainly say that if you are even considering something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks generally really took a jump onward in high quality around the 2000 design year, due to the fact that there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for circumstances would certainly not last very long in all.
However if we're considering the 2000 newer, I suggest, I 'd claim they're both most likely rather much matching in top quality, fit and surface, you recognize, a few of the passenger vans, certainly we'll have better visits than the freight vans. However I can't state that of them stands out to me a bit even more than the various other.
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